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"E. Marie Brierley" <ebrierley@saatvikadvisors.com> Tue, 29 March 2022 23:15 UTC

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From: "E. Marie Brierley" <ebrierley@saatvikadvisors.com>
To: Xipengxiao <xipengxiao=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>, Paolo Volpato <paolo.volpato=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "buraglio@es.net" <buraglio@es.net>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Thoughts about wider operational input
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Great to see so much enthusiasm for enterprise!

Some of you know I had the honor (and horror) of leading the v6 transition of cisco.com. This effort was enormous and required the heavy involvement of both business applications and infrastructure teams (33 top level teams, 69 director sign-offs and 800+ applications). We proved IPv6 is capable of supporting business at Cisco scale.

https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en_us/about/ciscoitatwork/borderless_networks/docs/M-EN-02242014-IPv6-Web-Presence.pdf
Cisco IT Expands IPv6 Web Presence<https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en_us/about/ciscoitatwork/borderless_networks/docs/M-EN-02242014-IPv6-Web-Presence.pdf>
“IPv6 isn’t a business capability change. It’s a technology change. From a business stakeholder’s perspective, IPv6 should roll out without any business or customer impact,” says Kaali Dass, IT architect, Connected IT Services at Cisco.
www.cisco.com


My approach has been to pivot from addressing the issue with solely IT as I believe the business case takes precedence in non-internet widget industries, eg. healthcare, manufacturing, retail, finance. IT in these industries are buried in priorities with insufficient budgets. If the CEOs, CMO's, CRO's, etc. don't prioritize and budget the effort, IT will be reluctant to move forward. Every day with no progress means the legacy black hole gets bigger and bigger, creating more v6 inertia. I have so much to say on the subject, but I'll stay with brevity on this thread.

I'd be happy to add my business experience and messaging to the group effort.

E. Marie


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To: Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>; Paolo Volpato <paolo.volpato=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; buraglio@es.net <buraglio@es.net>
Cc: Philipp S. Tiesel <phils@in-panik.de>; IPv6 Ops WG <v6ops@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [v6ops] Thoughts about wider operational input

Hi Fred,

I volunteer to work with Michael, Nick, Nalini, Paolo, Eduard and Philipp et al to find a few candidates, so that you and Ron can select 1-2 to talk in v6ops in Philadelphia IETF. I suggest we select those who are hands-on and can talk about the challenges and lessons in depth.

XiPeng

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Thoughts about wider operational input



> On Mar 29, 2022, at 7:51 AM, Paolo Volpato <paolo.volpato=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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> As Nick suggested, I also see a role for them to contribute in defining an evolution path to IPv6. I see this something that can be addressed in the IETF.

I don't disagree with you in the least. That brings me back to my original question, however:

Can we get someone-that's-not-a-vendor-academic-or-ISP (using the word "enterprise" seems to be confusing) give a talk in v6ops in Philadelphia about what their proposed evolutionary target for IPv6 might be?
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