Re: [v6ops] Thoughts about wider operational input

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> Mon, 04 April 2022 10:20 UTC

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Yep, that's part of the problem.

I don't think typically "non-home-oriented-CPEs" have an IPv6 firewall, or at least not enabled by default.

"small" SMEs most of the time use the same connectivity as a household subscriber, so most of the time the same "home-oriented-CPE".

If we move to medium SMEs, and of course, enterprises, they should have, in addition to the CPE, a firewall. It may happen that in many cases, they have it, but not neccesarily all.

Regards,
Jordi
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El 30/3/22, 23:16, "v6ops en nombre de Brian E Carpenter" <v6ops-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> escribió:

    Jordi,

    As we all know, home gateways that support IPv6 are shipped with a quite adequate default firewall configuration. Is there a good specification for a default firewall configuration for an SME CE router?

    Probably this isn't realistic for large enterprises?

        Brian
    On 31-Mar-22 07:27, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
    > Because if you don't have NAT, you are forced to properly configure a firewall.
    > 
    > With a NAT, many don't even have a firewall or is not sufficiently well 
    configured.
    > 
    > Regards,
    > Jordi
    > @jordipalet
    >   
    >   
    > 
    > El 30/3/22, 17:58, "v6ops en nombre de Joe Maimon" <v6ops-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de jmaimon@jmaimon.com> escribió:
    > 
    > 
    > 
    >      JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
    >      >
    >      > To demonstrate how NAT is not security, you just need to enable Teredo
    >      > or any other UDP tunneling traversing the NAT, so the security guys
    >      > can see that without any special config in the NAT, you can dig a
    >      > whole on it (Teredo Navalis = Shipworm).
    >      >
    >      > Regards,
    >      >
    >      > Jordi
    >      >
    >      > @jordipalet
    >      >
    > 
    >      And then you need to demonstrate how the equivalent would not happen on
    >      IPv6.
    > 
    >      Joe
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