Re: [v6ops] Thoughts about wider operational input

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <[e-mail]>]

Hi Fred, all,

I've thought about this many times, and I've myself confronted views:
1) Enterprises will come on-board when they really need it and start feeling the pressure, same as ISPs did/are doing.
2) We've failed with enterprises, as we are missing a better solution for multihoming.

No need to explain 1.

Of course, 2 only apply to certain "size" of enterprises. For example, SMEs that don't require multihoming or don't need to expose their internal services to "outside", could just survive with whatever prefix is assigned by the ISP, even if is not persistent, or even they can get assigned a PI from the relevant RIR and agree with their ISP to route it, so no need for BGP.

However, many organizations that today already use multihoming but still don't do BGP, definitively will require a PI prefix and they will need to have their own BGP router (very expensive, complex, lack of trained staff, etc.), or play ugly tricks.

I don't believe the right way is conditional RAs (RFC8475), neither using the experimental NPT (RFC6296).

A definitive solution may not be just an operational issue, so perhaps outside v6ops chapter, unless we can think in a new "magic", which then can definitively improve getting the enterprises moving on faster.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
 
 

El 21/3/22, 21:33, "v6ops en nombre de Fred Baker" <[e-mail] en nombre de [e-mail]> escribió:

    I have thought some about the discussion we had in the V6ops meeting about increasing operational input. Several suggestions were made: add a separate meeting, segregate parts of the meeting, attend the IEPG, use an interim, and so on. One thought that I had was to schedule a meeting at RIPE in May.

    None of these address what seems to me to be a core problem: ISPs are deploying, but enterprise isn’t. How do we get enterprise on board?

    Sent using a machine that autocorrects in interesting ways...
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