Re: [v6ops] Thoughts about wider operational input

Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> Thu, 24 March 2022 06:45 UTC

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IIRC, ::ffff:a.b.c.d/96 is never supposed to be present in a packet on the wire.

I believe it is intended to allow software to be coded for IPv6 and have the operating system
do connections over IPv4 or IPv6 without the software having to have any special IPv4
related code.

Owen


> On Mar 23, 2022, at 13:31 , Joe Maimon <jmaimon@jmaimon.com> wrote:
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> 
> Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> Eduard, you wrote:
>> 
>>> I am puzzled why ::ffff:0:0/96 has been treated as IPv4? Strange interpretation.
>> 
>> Not at all strange. By definition (see RFC4291, section 2.5.5.2) that is the entire
>> IPv4 address space, respresented as an IPv6 prefix.
>> 
> There is 2 thing at play. IPv6 packets with IPv4 embedded addresses as either or both source and destination.
> 
> And IPv4 packets with IPv4 addresses for both source and destination.
> 
> Perhaps they should be ranked individually.
> 
> Joe
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