Re: [v6ops] Thoughts about wider operational input

Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 21 March 2022 21:50 UTC

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> On Mar 21, 2022, at 2:05 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> "Why didn't those idiots make IPv6 backward-compatible with IPv4?"

To which the obvious answer is “IPv4 isn’t forward compatible with anything. It was designed to be replaced.”