Re: [v6ops] Thoughts about wider operational input

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> Wed, 30 March 2022 18:27 UTC

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Because if you don't have NAT, you are forced to properly configure a firewall.

With a NAT, many don't even have a firewall or is not sufficiently well configured.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
 
 

El 30/3/22, 17:58, "v6ops en nombre de Joe Maimon" <v6ops-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de jmaimon@jmaimon.com> escribió:



    JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
    >
    > To demonstrate how NAT is not security, you just need to enable Teredo 
    > or any other UDP tunneling traversing the NAT, so the security guys 
    > can see that without any special config in the NAT, you can dig a 
    > whole on it (Teredo Navalis = Shipworm).
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Jordi
    >
    > @jordipalet
    >

    And then you need to demonstrate how the equivalent would not happen on 
    IPv6.

    Joe

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