IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [v6ops] Thoughts about wider operational input

Joe Maimon <jmaimon@jmaimon.com> Mon, 04 April 2022 12:00 UTC

Return-Path: <jmaimon@jmaimon.com>
X-Original-To: v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: v6ops@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359CA3A006A; Mon, 4 Apr 2022 05:00:31 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.91
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qsZ8o2_fqcCn; Mon, 4 Apr 2022 05:00:24 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from smtp.chl.com (bindzonemaster.ttec.chl.com [216.222.148.102]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 967633A0063; Mon, 4 Apr 2022 05:00:22 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [216.222.150.100] (joe.ttec.chl.com [216.222.150.100]) by smtp.chl.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id 234C0K5b016801; Mon, 4 Apr 2022 08:00:20 -0400
To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet=40consulintel.es@dmarc.ietf.org>, v6ops list <v6ops@ietf.org>
References: <52661a3d-75dc-111a-3f23-09b10d7cb8d4@gmail.com> <A72CDDDB-CDCE-4EAF-B95E-997C764DB2C4@gmail.com> <9175dc32-45c1-e948-c20a-3bcc958b77b9@gmail.com> <YjmJQMNgnJoSInUw@Space.Net> <D75EF08F-6A41-41B2-AFB2-649CBCC1D83E@consulintel.es> <CAPt1N1nRnYUFA=yyJHx6t52yqWbmcd2Tf1H8gQuCZBd3Q3VqJw@mail.gmail.com> <7F4AEB43-4B24-4A21-AE9D-3EB512B98C46@consulintel.es> <8fac4314b8244ba6b33eea68694296d0@huawei.com> <9A13E47B-75D0-443F-9EE9-D2917ACB2D0F@consulintel.es> <CAO42Z2xUG+BXj+VQpajed9aGjH+q-HR7RX7C-T4DsTbouz7xWQ@mail.gmail.com> <F6A90BBF-7F44-403E-960A-8F756353B562@chinatelecom.cn> <B49417F7-3EFB-4A4D-9D1A-0D21574EA4F2@consulintel.es> <44B01ACA-3D5C-4618-B608-3B3479D29875@consulintel.es> <62447DCB.1010206@jmaimon.com> <7228D9A7-54A8-4BAE-9299-204C049F600B@consulintel.es> <6244BA91.3060306@jmaimon.com> <9889B39E-8632-4A2D-9226-E59857F7C89A@consulintel.es>
From: Joe Maimon <jmaimon@jmaimon.com>
Message-ID: <624ADDD4.9040408@jmaimon.com>
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2022 08:00:20 -0400
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.2; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0 SeaMonkey/2.40
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <9889B39E-8632-4A2D-9226-E59857F7C89A@consulintel.es>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/v6ops/HI4ZAXjV849KQBNGS6Fm39OdXBI>
Subject: Re: [v6ops] Thoughts about wider operational input
X-BeenThere: v6ops@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: v6ops discussion list <v6ops.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/v6ops>, <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/v6ops/>
List-Post: <mailto:v6ops@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops>, <mailto:v6ops-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2022 12:00:32 -0000


JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
> What I'm saying is that if you don't have a NAT you will need to ensure that the CPE has a firewall and it is enabled by default. It is not only in the interest of the subscriber, but also the ISP, to avoid calls to the help desk, or abuse cases, etc., etc.
>
> Regads,
> Jordi
> @jordipalet
>   
>

Agreed. However the concern is that this equates to an added burden, 
concern, issue that

a) slows adoption of v6

b) does not result in the same level of widespread deployment that the 
included-with-nat basic firewalling has

Joe

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email