Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled

Mary B <mary.h.barnes@gmail.com> Tue, 10 March 2020 19:45 UTC

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From: Mary B <mary.h.barnes@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 14:45:41 -0500
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Subject: Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled
To: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
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I think he stated his point very clearly - there is a broad range of risk
perceptions about COVID-19.  I was all for hopping on a plane and going to
Vancouver.  Actually, if I was gonna get sick, Vancouver is probably a much
better place with better healthcare than the US.

The worry and fear is just increasing people risks of getting sick on the
off chance they are exposed.  Stress suppresses immune function. Of course,
cookies and sodas do that as well.

Regards,
Mary.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 2:43 PM Salz, Rich <rsalz=
40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

>
> >    Agreed. I can also understand why the decision took until
>     now. Different people's risk perceptions differ so I'm
>     sure others will quite reasonably disagree with me on
>     this, but with all the behind-the-scenes stuff that had
>     to be considered, in addition to the ongoing (and many
>     v. recent) changes people's travel plans, I do totally
>     get why it took 'till today to make the call.
>
> Good.  Share it with the rest of us.
>
>