Re: Madrid

Alexandre Petrescu <> Wed, 11 March 2020 16:03 UTC

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Le 11/03/2020 à 16:17, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ a écrit :
> I hope we don't get so crazy with Covid19 so we keep it going against our freedom so many months.
> It took me 20 years to get IETF in Madrid! I should sue the virus itself!

I would happily reserve my time for Madrid if IETF meeting happened 
there.  It would be a big positive advantage for me, as I live in Europe.

But plan for it differently, better.

Some meetings are cancelled in April, e.g. 3GPP "face-to-face 3GPP WG 
meetings scheduled for April 2020 will be cancelled."

Some curves can be started to look at now.

I think it would be good to design a protocol (not secret protocol) to 
decide continuity of meetings facing exceptional events.  Or protocol to 
decide when to cancel or not.


> Seriously, I still got doctors from the neighborhood that keep telling me that as closer we are to the summer, smaller are the chances of the virus to resist and propagate.
> If the situation is bad, I hope this time we don't take an arbitrary decision and we decide based on the local government decisions.
> Regards,
> Jordi
> @jordipalet
> El 11/3/20 12:22, "Nick Hilliard" <> escribió:
>      JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote on 10/03/2020 20:37:
>      > According to lawyers, at least in the case of Spanish law, from what
>      > I got about 10 minutes ago, if an event organizer cancels a meeting,
>      > it is responsible and liable for any cancellation's costs to
>      > participants, unless there is a "force major cause" (which clearly is
>      > not the case, until it is declared by the corresponding government).
>      Could someone from the IETF confirm that this has been taken into
>      account in the risk analysis for the Madrid meeting?
>      It's entirely possible that a covid-19 outbreak could rumble on for some
>      time, and if local legislation in Spain means that the IETF was liable
>      to pay attendee costs if the Madrid meeting were cancelled, then this
>      could present a financial threat to the viability of the IETF.
>      Nick
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