Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es> Tue, 10 March 2020 21:24 UTC

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The information that I've understood from the TV news and online newspapers is that Italy is not "closed".

If you sign a document showing that you're moving around for work, they you are allowed to move. For fun not.

Don't take my above sentence literally. Is my personal summary of how they "close" the country. In fact it has been said that restricting movement of people is against constitution unless the martial law is declared, because the government could only impose that if doing an analysis you have the virus, which for me, makes a lot of sense then.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
 
 

El 10/3/20 21:36, "ietf en nombre de Rich Kulawiec" <ietf-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de rsk@gsp.org> escribió:

    On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 08:29:56PM +0100, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
    > I really think it is a criminal wrong decision. We are just helping to spread the fear.
    
    No, it's a realistic decision.  A vaccine is likely a year-ish away
    barring a serendipitous breakthrough.  Italy shut down the entire country
    effective this morning.  US Universities and colleges are sending their
    students home.  And so on -- because the only viable method available for
    slowing the spread is social distancing.  COVID-19 will still propagate,
    but it will propagate more slowly, flattening the demand curve for
    medical resources, including personnel, hospital rooms, ICU space, etc.
    (And those of us in the US had better hope that works because the current
    infection rate projections look ominous circa March 20 and the testing
    rate is orders of magnitude below where it needs to be.)
    
    Everything done before a pandemic looks like too much, everything done
    after it hits looks like too little.
    
    ---rsk
    
    



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