Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled
Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Thu, 12 March 2020 09:47 UTC
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From: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>
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Le 12/03/2020 à 07:24, Carsten Bormann a écrit : > On 2020-03-12, at 03:09, S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> wrote: >> >> If a decision about Madrid has to be taken now, would you advise people to go there? > > (1) We don’t know the answer. > > (2) We *know* that we don’t know the answer. > > Number 2 allows us to do some planning. > > Grüße, Carsten > Yes I agree on both points. Until we get to (2), I can say that I suspect we have a big problem understanding the foundations of the problem of this virus with a crown, which conditions Madrid. It is reflected in terminology. The issue I have is when the terminology is used in critical communications, like official statements to wide audience. D in COVID is Disease. In English, the last noun counts. SMTP is a Protocol, not a Transport, neither a Mail. Despite that, all official statements including from WHO, say alternatively "COVID-19 virus" and "COVID-19 disease". In French it is "Le COVID" as if it were "Le virus" and it is never "La COVID" as in "La Maladie". I suspect this assumption of "COVID" to be more of a virus than a disease to come from people assuming VID to be some form of ViruseD or some latin association like when latin words use a lot of Ds. Medical speech is associated to latin sound. On another hand, SARS is a syndrome and a virus in common speech. H1N1 is a virus only, not a disease. AIDS is a syndrome and HIV is a virus. Ever used interchangeably? I dont know. AIDS being a syndrome like SARS being a syndrome and a virus makes think AIDS might be a virus too, but no, AIDS is not a virus. These misunderstandings is what might be at root of problem too. We cant understand something that we cant communicate effectively. Another misunderstanding, and root cause of much loss of trust, is the discussion on whether or not there was 'mutation', or whether or not there will be. Official statements, and qualified statement from inventor of 'friction soap' (liquide hydro alcoholique, earlier 'soap without water') say no 'mutation' as of now, even though some websites show the contrary. I suspect the inventor wants it to be non-mutated, because otherwise the list of acronyms on the bottle would have to change, and people would be afraid this bottle no longer is valid. That might be true or false, I dont know. But, the inventor also stated the recipe to make the liquid is open source and non-patended. Can be made in pharmacy. That is a great thing to start with. Alex
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