Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Sun, 15 March 2020 22:18 UTC

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Le 15/03/2020 à 13:24, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ a écrit :
> According to a documentary displayed yesterday in the TV, it looks like there are (up to now) 2 models to combat the propagation of the virus:
>
> 1) Chinese model, which is the same adopted in Italy and now Spain, quarantining everyone via an "alarm state" law. You can go to work only if needed, do shopping for food, but not go out of home for visiting friends, sports or fun. Only food shops can remain open, and a few other exceptions (pharmacies, banks).
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> 2) The S. Korean model, which is testing lots of people and quarantine only for those that don't pass the test.
>
> It looks like the S. Korean model is working, so either there are different tests, which are not reading the same, or something else.


Jordi, let me update some thing and then I go to bed.

In France, things change as we speak.  It might be that tomorrow we get 
even more closure (e.g. today 80% transport, but tomorrow might be 0).  
That would amount to what other EU capitals measures in place, like 
close metro.  The issue in France was today about Elections.  Democracy 
is a fundamental issue.  Emergency state of affairs means some strong 
measures, some might not accept, and it might mean enforcement.  This is 
documented.

At my work place, I can tell that there were at least three 
announcements even today, which is a Sunday, in plus than what we had 
end of last week.  Their stance is towards more and more telling 
employees clearly to stay at home (rather than just recommending as a 
good practice), except the critical persons (critical work).  I need to 
mention my work place, because it is for my work place that I 
participate to IETF.

That tells me that among the models you mention above, it might be that 
we in France might head towards a model that you say China, Italy and 
Spain.  It might be that we wasted precious days.

Or it might not.

Alex

>
> Maybe someone from S. Korea can tell?
>
> Regards,
> Jordi
> @jordipalet
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> El 15/3/20 11:06, "ietf en nombre de Rich Kulawiec" <ietf-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de rsk@gsp.org> escribió:
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>      On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:07:12AM -0500, Mary B wrote:
>      > Just one comment on your item #1 in your proposal.   Your body does not
>      > immediately develop the antibodies upon exposure, so you can be a carrier
>      > well before you'll test positive. You'd also selfishly be adding to the
>      > burden on the system for testing.
>      
>      This is absolutely correct.  Hospitals here are trying to clear
>      out as many non-critical cases as possible, to postpone any
>      surgical procedures that they can, to stockpile supplies, to give
>      staff as much rest as they can, etc.  They are expecting the worst
>      and anything that we can all do to decrease the need for care
>      across the entire population will help.
>      
>      ---rsk
>      
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