Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled

Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> Tue, 10 March 2020 20:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 20:13:37 +0000
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Cc: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>, Mary B <mary.h.barnes@gmail.com>, "Salz, Rich" <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet=40consulintel.es@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Remember whilst we get to choose whether we go or not the staff that run the meeting do not have that choice.

Just being in the same large meeting as someone with Covid-19 is likely to get everyone a 14 day quarantine. 

Being sick in a foreign country is not much fun (been there twice, once needing hospital) having a long quarantine possibly on both sides of the boarder ads plenty to the misery.

I am sure that the IESG made the call with the best information, they had. It is a difficult job that they do at times like this. We should support them.

As to cancellation costs, wait until the last minute and some other factor may cut in and mean that the airline or your insurance pick up the bill.

- Stewart


> On 10 Mar 2020, at 19:57, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet=40consulintel.es@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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> Exactly! With this decision we just spread fear.
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> A total no-sense unless really Canada ban the meetings (and that will allow those that pre-paid NON-REFUNDABLE rates for hotels and flights, get it refunded).
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> Regards,
> Jordi
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> @jordipalet
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> El 10/3/20 20:46, "ietf en nombre de Mary B" <ietf-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:ietf-bounces@ietf.org> en nombre de mary.h.barnes@gmail.com <mailto:mary.h.barnes@gmail.com>> escribió:
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> I think he stated his point very clearly - there is a broad range of risk perceptions about COVID-19.  I was all for hopping on a plane and going to Vancouver.  Actually, if I was gonna get sick, Vancouver is probably a much better place with better healthcare than the US.  
>  
> The worry and fear is just increasing people risks of getting sick on the off chance they are exposed.  Stress suppresses immune function. Of course, cookies and sodas do that as well. 
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> Regards,
> Mary. 
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> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 2:43 PM Salz, Rich <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org <mailto:40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
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>> >    Agreed. I can also understand why the decision took until
>>     now. Different people's risk perceptions differ so I'm
>>     sure others will quite reasonably disagree with me on
>>     this, but with all the behind-the-scenes stuff that had
>>     to be considered, in addition to the ongoing (and many
>>     v. recent) changes people's travel plans, I do totally
>>     get why it took 'till today to make the call.
>> 
>> Good.  Share it with the rest of us.
>> 
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