Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled

Marc Petit-Huguenin <petithug@acm.org> Wed, 11 March 2020 16:26 UTC

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Subject: Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled
To: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com>, ietf@ietf.org
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On 3/11/20 9:14 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Could we please move this discussion off the main IETF list? I don't see
> how such speculations are related to IETF activities.

Yes, please.

> 
> On 3/11/20 9:25 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>> I got it double-confirmed by two different lawyers. It is not possible to indiscriminate restrict right for everybody.
>>
>> If the reason is a virus, and you have been tested to be free, you have the right to keep moving.
>>
>> Again, unless martial law (or equivalent) is declared.
>>
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>> Regards,
>> Jordi
>> @jordipalet
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>> El 11/3/20 15:56, "ietf en nombre de Fernando Gont" <ietf-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de fgont@si6networks.com> escribió:
>>
>>     On 11/3/20 11:25, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>>     [....]
>>     > 
>>     > So, in this situation if the Spanish government take such decision of restricting my freedom in an indiscriminate way, this is my plan (which I've sent to my lawyer this morning to make sure that it is right, but I think so):
>>     > 
>>     > 1) Get tested for Covid19 (even repeat it every week or after every trip if needed)
>>     > 2) Voluntarily avoid moving for "fun"
>>     > 3) Keep my normal professional activities, including attending customers, traveling or whatever is committed of course IF my test was "free of Covid19"
>>     > 4) If I'm free of Covid19, I will clearly disobey the government-imposed restriction of movement in order to fulfil my commitments
>>     > 5) If I'm arrested, which is a possibility, ask for an "habeas corpus", to be presented immediately to a judge, show him my "Covid19 test", to make sure that I'm released.
>>     > 6) Immediately sue the government for an illegal restriction of movement and arrest.
>>     > 
>>     > No matter how much is the cost or consequences, fight against irrational and indiscriminate freedom restrictions. Again: IF and only IF, you're free from the Covid19, so never being able to affect others.
>>     
>>     The goal is containment of a virus that has been indirectly causing 
>>     death of many people, and that is spreading very fast.
>>     
>>     I wouldn't call that "irrational and indiscriminate", but YMMV.
>>     
>>     -- 
>>     Fernando Gont
>>     SI6 Networks
>>     e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com
>>     PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492
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