RE: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled

Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com> Wed, 11 March 2020 15:26 UTC

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From: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>
To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet=40consulintel.es@dmarc.ietf.org>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled
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>> Seriously, I still got doctors from the neighborhood that keep telling me that as closer we are to the summer, smaller are the chances of the virus to resist and propagate.

I think as I mentioned earlier, the most important for everyone to be like the IRON man, protect completely from the surroundings and avoid any intervention or interference.

Best regards,

Khaled Omar

-----Original Message-----
From: ietf <ietf-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 5:18 PM
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Subject: Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled

I hope we don't get so crazy with Covid19 so we keep it going against our freedom so many months.

It took me 20 years to get IETF in Madrid! I should sue the virus itself!

Seriously, I still got doctors from the neighborhood that keep telling me that as closer we are to the summer, smaller are the chances of the virus to resist and propagate.

If the situation is bad, I hope this time we don't take an arbitrary decision and we decide based on the local government decisions.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
 
 

El 11/3/20 12:22, "Nick Hilliard" <nick@foobar.org> escribió:

    JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote on 10/03/2020 20:37:
    > According to lawyers, at least in the case of Spanish law, from what
    > I got about 10 minutes ago, if an event organizer cancels a meeting,
    > it is responsible and liable for any cancellation's costs to
    > participants, unless there is a "force major cause" (which clearly is
    > not the case, until it is declared by the corresponding government).
    
    Could someone from the IETF confirm that this has been taken into 
    account in the risk analysis for the Madrid meeting?
    
    It's entirely possible that a covid-19 outbreak could rumble on for some 
    time, and if local legislation in Spain means that the IETF was liable 
    to pay attendee costs if the Madrid meeting were cancelled, then this 
    could present a financial threat to the viability of the IETF.
    
    Nick
    



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