Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled

JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <> Thu, 12 March 2020 08:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled
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The problem is that you're pointing to someone that, even if elected democratically, is creating troubles for the full planet, ignoring evident things like global warming ...

And the second problem is that asking for a decision "now" for something that will take place in almost 5 months from now, don't looks to me like smart.

I still think that the decision must be only based in the decisions of the local host government, of course, unless the full world prohibits traveling there.

Let's suppose we are already at the end of June and we need to take a decision. Let's suppose the Covid19 spread has gone lower in Spain. If US is the only country that prohibits people going to Spain, we must keep the meeting. US people decided what president they want, and this is a consequence of that.

It is the same if the situation is reversed and Spain (or any other country) government, decides to disallow travel to country x.

El 12/3/20 3:09, "S Moonesamy" <> escribió:

    Hi Jordi,
    At 09:17 AM 11-03-2020, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
    >In my opinion those kinds of decisions belong to all of us. Consensus.
    >Anyway, I was not talking here about the recent decision but about 
    >taking now a decision about Madrid in July.
    >I still think that anyone taking a decision instead of following the 
    >host country recommendations is arbitrary. We just disagree.
    Please see  That restriction will 
    affect a range of people, irrespective of host country.  If a 
    decision about Madrid has to be taken now, would you advise people to go there?
    S. Moonesamy 

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