Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled

Alexandre Petrescu <> Wed, 11 March 2020 10:26 UTC

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Subject: Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled
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Le 10/03/2020 à 22:24, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ a écrit :
> The information that I've understood from the TV news and online
> newspapers is that Italy is not "closed".
> If you sign a document showing that you're moving around for work,
> they you are allowed to move. For fun not.
> Don't take my above sentence literally. Is my personal summary of how
> they "close" the country. In fact it has been said that restricting
> movement of people is against constitution unless the martial law is
> declared, because the government could only impose that if doing an
> analysis you have the virus, which for me, makes a lot of sense
> then.

Jordi, I think since you posted that particular situation of Italy 
closure might have changed for the worst.

I can tell that France said initially that all routes waterways and 
airways open to Italy.  It then changed to some of them being closed 
(notably the airways).

I can tell that in Romania it is said all ways closed to Italy.

I can tell that other countries made similar statements in recent days, 
towards closure.

I can also tell I understand the reasoning behind you mention when you 
say allowing only business travellers (no tourist).  It might be the 
case.  But in the end, I do not see why business travellers would be a 
different kind of humans, medically speaking.


> Regards, Jordi @jordipalet
> El 10/3/20 21:36, "ietf en nombre de Rich Kulawiec"
> < en nombre de> escribió:
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 08:29:56PM +0100, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
> wrote:
>> I really think it is a criminal wrong decision. We are just helping
>> to spread the fear.
> No, it's a realistic decision.  A vaccine is likely a year-ish away 
> barring a serendipitous breakthrough.  Italy shut down the entire
> country effective this morning.  US Universities and colleges are
> sending their students home.  And so on -- because the only viable
> method available for slowing the spread is social distancing.
> COVID-19 will still propagate, but it will propagate more slowly,
> flattening the demand curve for medical resources, including
> personnel, hospital rooms, ICU space, etc. (And those of us in the US
> had better hope that works because the current infection rate
> projections look ominous circa March 20 and the testing rate is
> orders of magnitude below where it needs to be.)
> Everything done before a pandemic looks like too much, everything
> done after it hits looks like too little.
> ---rsk
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