Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled

"Soininen, Jonne (Nokia - FI/Espoo)" <jonne.soininen@nokia.com> Tue, 10 March 2020 21:40 UTC

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From: "Soininen, Jonne (Nokia - FI/Espoo)" <jonne.soininen@nokia.com>
To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet=40consulintel.es@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled
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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 21:40:25 +0000
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Hi Jordi,

Actually according my understanding Italy is closed. You are not allowed to move from one region to another.  People are told to stay at home unless of critical reasons. In the north, in Lombardy where my wife is from the hospitals seem to be at max capacity. In addition, you don’t need martial law as many countries have laws for the confinement of outbreaks like this. For instance, they confined about thousand people in a hotel in Tenerife just a couple of weeks ago. 

I’m sure this was a difficult decision, but one cannot do anything else but support IETF on this and hope we can make the best out of the virtual meeting. 

Cheers,

Jonne. 

Ps. Jordi, though IETF is not there, Vancouver still is. You can still go there if you want to use your ticket. I think some people went to Cancun this week even if the ICANN meeting which was supposed to be there was converted to a virtual meeting. 

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> On 10. Mar 2020, at 23.25, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet=40consulintel.es@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> 
> The information that I've understood from the TV news and online newspapers is that Italy is not "closed".
> 
> If you sign a document showing that you're moving around for work, they you are allowed to move. For fun not.
> 
> Don't take my above sentence literally. Is my personal summary of how they "close" the country. In fact it has been said that restricting movement of people is against constitution unless the martial law is declared, because the government could only impose that if doing an analysis you have the virus, which for me, makes a lot of sense then.
> 
> Regards,
> Jordi
> @jordipalet
> 
> 
> 
> El 10/3/20 21:36, "ietf en nombre de Rich Kulawiec" <ietf-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de rsk@gsp.org> escribió:
> 
>>    On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 08:29:56PM +0100, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>> I really think it is a criminal wrong decision. We are just helping to spread the fear.
> 
>    No, it's a realistic decision.  A vaccine is likely a year-ish away
>    barring a serendipitous breakthrough.  Italy shut down the entire country
>    effective this morning.  US Universities and colleges are sending their
>    students home.  And so on -- because the only viable method available for
>    slowing the spread is social distancing.  COVID-19 will still propagate,
>    but it will propagate more slowly, flattening the demand curve for
>    medical resources, including personnel, hospital rooms, ICU space, etc.
>    (And those of us in the US had better hope that works because the current
>    infection rate projections look ominous circa March 20 and the testing
>    rate is orders of magnitude below where it needs to be.)
> 
>    Everything done before a pandemic looks like too much, everything done
>    after it hits looks like too little.
> 
>    ---rsk
> 
> 
> 
> 
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