Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled

Phillip Hallam-Baker <> Wed, 11 March 2020 16:15 UTC

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Subject: Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled
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This discussion is pointless and unhelpful.

1) The decision has been taken, it cannot be untaken.
2) There is more than sufficient reason to cancel because the meeting
cannot be productive
3) Holding the meeting would almost certainly lead to spreading the disease
4) There is a significant probability that many attendees would be unable
to return home if they attempted to attend.
5) It is very probable that the Canadian or US authorities will bar travel
before or during the meeting.

Besides the public health concerns, we are about to see a recession
the only question is how deep and how long. Many people's employers are
going to be continuing to limit travel for the rest of the year. For most
IETF participants, to go to Vancouver for an international meeting would
have been a severely career limiting move.

Sure, we could ignore government orders. But these are orders that are
being made to protect public health. The IETF is not an anarchist

If folk were following my FB feed, they would know that two of the
exhibitors at RSA have come down with COVID, one is on a ventilator. Had
IETF 107 not been cancelled when it was, I would have begun a campaign on
and off the IETF list to cancel. If it wasn't for the fact I am not fully
coherent yet and can't actually attend anyway, I would have likely begun