Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled

Stan Kalisch <stan@glyphein.mailforce.net> Wed, 11 March 2020 22:57 UTC

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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 18:56:51 -0400
From: "Stan Kalisch" <stan@glyphein.mailforce.net>
To: "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ" <jordi.palet=40consulintel.es@dmarc.ietf.org>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled
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On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, at 12:17 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
> Hi Ole,
> 
> In my opinion those kinds of decisions belong to all of us. Consensus.
> 
> Anyway, I was not talking here about the recent decision but about 
> taking now a decision about Madrid in July.
> 
> Someone send me a private email (suggested to send to the list) that 
> effectively shows that the virus is not resistent to heat, so as much 
> as we move towards spring/summer, less chances to propagate.

No.

Per https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/faq.html:

"It is not yet known whether weather and temperature impact the spread of COVID-19. Some other viruses, like the common cold and flu, spread more during cold weather months but that does not mean it is impossible to become sick with these viruses during other months.  At this time, it is not known whether the spread of COVID-19 will decrease when weather becomes warmer.  There is much more to learn about the transmissibility, severity, and other features associated with COVID-19 and investigations are ongoing."


Stan

> Of course, 
> we should not ask to have the meeting rooms freezing!
> 
> I still think that anyone taking a decision instead of following the 
> host country recommendations is arbitrary. We just disagree.
>  
> Regarsds,
> Jordi
> @jordipalet
>  
>  
> 
> El 11/3/20 16:25, "ietf en nombre de Ole Jacobsen" 
> <ietf-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de 
> olejacobsen=40me.com@dmarc.ietf.org> escribió:
> 
>     Jordi,
>     
>     With all due respect, the decision was not “arbitrary.” As has been 
> explained
>     repeatedly, the cancellation was more of a “side-effect” of Covid19 
> rather than
>     a major concern about the health risk of our attendees. This 
> “side-effect” was
>     explained in the announcement: 
>     
>     "This decision is based on input we gathered from Working Group 
> (WG) and Research Group (RG) chairs about our ability to hold 
> productive WG and RG sessions at IETF 107.
>     Our assessment of this feedback is that a majority of sessions 
> would not be viable if we were to hold the in-person IETF meeting. On 
> this basis, we believe we cannot hold an effective in-person meeting.”
>     
>     Ole
>     
>     
>     > On 11 Mar 2020, at 08:17, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ 
> <jordi.palet=40consulintel.es@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>     > 
>     > I hope we don't get so crazy with Covid19 so we keep it going 
> against our freedom so many months.
>     > 
>     > It took me 20 years to get IETF in Madrid! I should sue the virus 
> itself!
>     > 
>     > Seriously, I still got doctors from the neighborhood that keep 
> telling me that as closer we are to the summer, smaller are the chances 
> of the virus to resist and propagate.
>     > 
>     > If the situation is bad, I hope this time we don't take an 
> arbitrary decision and we decide based on the local government 
> decisions.
>     > 
>     > Regards,
>     > Jordi
>     > @jordipalet
>     > 
>     > 
>     
>     Ole J. Jacobsen
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>     
>     
> 
> 
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