Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled

Mary B <mary.h.barnes@gmail.com> Wed, 11 March 2020 16:09 UTC

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From: Mary B <mary.h.barnes@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2020 11:08:58 -0500
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Subject: Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled
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You might want to read how these tests work.  There are two types - one
looks for the genome and the other antibodies:
https://www.livescience.com/how-coronavirus-tests-work.html

It can take up to a week for antibodies to develop.  So, you'd need to add
a step that includes a quarantine period after you've been out and about.
 And, as with any tests, they are not 100% accurate, so a false negative is
always possible.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:26 AM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet=
40consulintel.es@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> I got it double-confirmed by two different lawyers. It is not possible to
> indiscriminate restrict right for everybody.
>
> If the reason is a virus, and you have been tested to be free, you have
> the right to keep moving.
>
> Again, unless martial law (or equivalent) is declared.
>
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> Regards,
> Jordi
> @jordipalet
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> El 11/3/20 15:56, "ietf en nombre de Fernando Gont" <
> ietf-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de fgont@si6networks.com> escribió:
>
>     On 11/3/20 11:25, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>     [....]
>     >
>     > So, in this situation if the Spanish government take such decision
> of restricting my freedom in an indiscriminate way, this is my plan (which
> I've sent to my lawyer this morning to make sure that it is right, but I
> think so):
>     >
>     > 1) Get tested for Covid19 (even repeat it every week or after every
> trip if needed)
>     > 2) Voluntarily avoid moving for "fun"
>     > 3) Keep my normal professional activities, including attending
> customers, traveling or whatever is committed of course IF my test was
> "free of Covid19"
>     > 4) If I'm free of Covid19, I will clearly disobey the
> government-imposed restriction of movement in order to fulfil my commitments
>     > 5) If I'm arrested, which is a possibility, ask for an "habeas
> corpus", to be presented immediately to a judge, show him my "Covid19
> test", to make sure that I'm released.
>     > 6) Immediately sue the government for an illegal restriction of
> movement and arrest.
>     >
>     > No matter how much is the cost or consequences, fight against
> irrational and indiscriminate freedom restrictions. Again: IF and only IF,
> you're free from the Covid19, so never being able to affect others.
>
>     The goal is containment of a virus that has been indirectly causing
>     death of many people, and that is spreading very fast.
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>     I wouldn't call that "irrational and indiscriminate", but YMMV.
>
>     --
>     Fernando Gont
>     SI6 Networks
>     e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com
>     PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492
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