Re: IETF 107 Vancouver In-Person Meeting Cancelled

[Alexandre Petrescu <[e-mail]>]

Le 15/03/2020 à 18:40, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit :
>
> Le 15/03/2020 à 13:24, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ a écrit :
>> According to a documentary displayed yesterday in the TV, it looks 
>> like there are (up to now) 2 models to combat the propagation of the 
>> virus:
>>
>> 1) Chinese model, which is the same adopted in Italy and now Spain, 
>> quarantining everyone via an "alarm state" law. You can go to work 
>> only if needed, do shopping for food, but not go out of home for 
>> visiting friends, sports or fun. Only food shops can remain open, and 
>> a few other exceptions (pharmacies, banks).
>>
>> 2) The S. Korean model, which is testing lots of people and 
>> quarantine only for those that don't pass the test.
>
>
> yes talk here also talks about differnet models.
>
> Among the ones in alarm state, one should count Romania as well, 
> although not sure they can really do it.  The official orders are 
> almost total closure, but implementation is not sure.
>
> Among those in 'gradual' state - appropriate response to an an 
> evolving situation, is also France - publicly declared so - a gradual 
> evolution.
>
> There are also those who leave almost all open: UK, if I understand well.
>
> Codogno (Italy) earlier blocking seems to work: two weeks later no new 
> cases, apparently.
>
> To understand the different degrees of closure one can read the 
> official orders issued yesterday, today ('decret', 'order', etc).
>
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>
> The medical theory is the following: if each of us (100% of our 
> species) stays away from each other, then in 2 weeks time all viruses 
> with crown are at hospital.
>
> But the wave is of 3month and a half long.  The difference between 2 
> weeks, and 3 months and a half, represents our difficulty  to 
> understand it, and it costs us our dearest.
>
> ------------------
>
> The China new cases goes up instead of down, but it is still low. 
> Chinese declare the event ended, officially.
>
> ------------------
>
> The excellent news is the following: social distancing means to stay 
> away (more than 1m) from each other.  YOu can do that by staying at 
> home instead of going to work.  But you can do that also by travelling 
> (provided youre sole in the bus, or so).  One can also share the 
> beautiful  view of a sunset outdoors, with a few persons with whom to 
> share destiny, but no more.
>
> Another excellent news: one is not forced to isolate all air intake in 
> one's appartment, or not breathe while outdoors.  Just to stay away 
> from unknown people.
>
> It's not like in other kinds of events which are worse, where you have 
> to isolate, stay inside, 'calfeutrer' (fr.), 'caulk'?(english).
>
> There is a new word: 'social distancing'.  It is 'distanciation 
> sociale' in French, since yesterday. (distantiation, distanciation, 
> distanceation, not sure).
>
> Alex


Funnily I saw this Tab why browsing a UK site about the virus:


There is a crown, but something is not right.

https://www.gov.uk/government/topical-events/coronavirus-covid-19-uk-government-response

Alex

>
>>
>> It looks like the S. Korean model is working, so either there are 
>> different tests, which are not reading the same, or something else.
>>
>> Maybe someone from S. Korea can tell?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jordi
>> @jordipalet
>>
>> El 15/3/20 11:06, "ietf en nombre de Rich Kulawiec" 
>> <[e-mail] en nombre de [e-mail]> escribió:
>>
>>      On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:07:12AM -0500, Mary B wrote:
>>      > Just one comment on your item #1 in your proposal. Your body 
>> does not
>>      > immediately develop the antibodies upon exposure, so you can 
>> be a carrier
>>      > well before you'll test positive. You'd also selfishly be 
>> adding to the
>>      > burden on the system for testing.
>>           This is absolutely correct.  Hospitals here are trying to 
>> clear
>>      out as many non-critical cases as possible, to postpone any
>>      surgical procedures that they can, to stockpile supplies, to give
>>      staff as much rest as they can, etc.  They are expecting the worst
>>      and anything that we can all do to decrease the need for care
>>      across the entire population will help.
>>           ---rsk
>>
>>
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