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Re: [Recentattendees] IETF 100, Singapore -- proposed path forward and request for input

Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com> Tue, 24 May 2016 20:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Recentattendees] IETF 100, Singapore -- proposed path forward and request for input
To: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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From: Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com>
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Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 12:42:41 -0800
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On 5/24/16 12:31 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
> It is only in the past three years that the IAOC has even really had a
> meaningful choice about whether to go to a country that recognized LGBT
> marital rights.

The problem with Singapore is not that marital/parental rights
are not recognized.  The problem is that Singapore has multiple
laws that criminalize same-sex relationships between men and
that their Supreme Court upheld those laws less than two years
ago.  This is, to my knowledge, unique among countries where
the IETF has met.  If the situation in Singapore is, in fact,
hunky-dory, they have the option of making that clear by
getting rid of those laws.

Nobody has been able to provide any concrete assurances
that a meeting participant's familial and parental rights would be
protected while visiting Singapore, Barry Greene's giggles
notwithstanding.  The risks are unknown and the consequences are
potentially quite serious.

Melinda

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