Re: [Recentattendees] IETF 100, Singapore -- proposed path forward and request for input

Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> Tue, 24 May 2016 17:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Recentattendees] IETF 100, Singapore -- proposed path forward and request for input
To: Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com>
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On 5/24/16 12:26, Yoav Nir wrote:
> Anyway, (2) would exclude me and about a dozen of our regulars. Gun ownership by citizens does not exclude anyone.

Right, and that's exactly my point. Jari's formulation here is, I think, 
a good one: "I might for instance have some opinions about a country’s 
policies or practices, but me visiting that country am reasonably not 
affected by those policies. I hope when we evaluate meetings for the 
practical can-meet aspect (with everything that is implied by that), not 
for the long list of in-principle issues."

> I do not doubt that it sucks to be a gay or bisexual male living in Singapore. Spending a week there for work should be fine.

I'll again agree with Jari's formulation, adding emphasis to the final 
three cited words: "I think it is of course necessary to consider things 
that affect the ability to enter, safety (possibly including usual human 
activities that people do outside meetings anyway, *families travelling 
along*)".

/a