Re: [Recentattendees] IETF 100, Singapore -- proposed path forward and request for input

Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> Tue, 24 May 2016 17:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Recentattendees] IETF 100, Singapore -- proposed path forward and request for input
To: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>, Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com>
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On 5/24/16 11:37, Eliot Lear wrote:
> On 5/24/16 6:18 PM, Adam Roach wrote:
>> This shouldn't be that hard to think about. Would you have a greater
>> objection to the IETF selecting (1) a locale that allows private
>> citizen ownership of guns or (2) a country that refuses to recognize
>> Israeli passports?
> False choice.
>
>

The question on the table in this sub-thread is: considering 
governmental policies that some subset of participants find 
objectionable (but which don't otherwise preclude meeting there), 
whether nondiscriminatory ones pose a greater or lesser issue for IETF 
venue selection than discriminatory ones. All I've done above is shift 
the class being targeted.

If you want to take this logic at a slower pace, start with Jordi's 
original message listing six issues, except replace "LGBT Rights" with 
"Recognition of Israeli passports"; follow it with my response pointing 
out that #5 is different than the others; and then ask Yoav's question. 
How do you respond?

/a