Re: [rtcweb] confirming sense of the room: mti codec

Adam Roach <> Sat, 06 December 2014 01:50 UTC

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On 12/5/14 15:26, David Singer wrote:
>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 11:58 , Jean-Marc Valin <> wrote:
>> 3) This is the only proposal that gets support from both camps
> if you could speak only for yourself, and not others, that might be better.  You’re claiming support by other people here.

If I read Jean-Marc's statement correctly, it's not speaking on behalf 
of other people; it's using what they have already said, on the record 
[1], as a valid part of his rationale.

I'd like to reinforce this sentiment. I support this proposal not 
because I think it is the best solution, but because it is the first MTI 
video codec proposal that the actual implementors in this technology 
space have even remotely agreed on since the discussion began. I support 
this proposal primarily because it is the only solution we have yet seen 
that has a credible chance of succeeding.

That's a powerful reason -- at least, for those people invested in this 
technology -- but it necessarily involves pointing to the positions of 
others. This is not the same as making statements on their behalf, as 
you claim; it is merely acknowledging that they've already made such 


[1] I'm not going through the effort of gathering citations here, as I 
would expect that you, and all other involved participants, are 
sufficiently familiar with the ongoing conversation to make doing so 
unnecessary. If you'd like to make the claim such positions have *not* 
been asserted by the parties in question, I'll happily point you to a 
trove of relevant emails, meeting minutes, slide decks, and audio