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Re: [rtcweb] confirming sense of the room: mti codec

Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> Sat, 13 December 2014 00:00 UTC

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From: Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net>
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 01:00:21 +0100
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] confirming sense of the room: mti codec
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2014-12-13 0:49 GMT+01:00 Peter Saint-Andre - &yet <peter@andyet.net>:
> To promote the use of non-royalty bearing video codecs,
>       participants in the RTCWEB working group, and any successor
>       working groups in the IETF, intend to monitor the evolving
>       licensing landscape as it pertains to the two mandatory-to-
>       implement codecs.  If compelling evidence arises that one of the
>       codecs is available for use on a royalty-free basis, the working
>       group plans to revisit the question of which codecs are required
>       for Non-Browsers, with the intention being that the royalty-free
>       codec will remain mandatory to implement, and the other will
>       become optional.
>
>       These provisions apply to WebRTC Non-Browsers only.  There is no
>       plan to revisit the codecs required for WebRTC Browsers.

Clear. H264 mandatory for browsers forever. Congrats patent holders.

BTW this is the first specification/standard/draft/RFC that states how
future revisions of itself should behave. A clear lock-in IMHO.



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Iñaki Baz Castillo
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