Re: [rtcweb] confirming sense of the room: mti codec

David Singer <singer@apple.com> Sun, 07 December 2014 17:07 UTC

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> On Dec 6, 2014, at 19:17 , Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote:
> 
> On 12/6/14 19:41, David Singer wrote:
>> Adam
>> 
>> we are at cross purposes.  I am complaining about a language usage.  When you say “both camps support” you imply (a) that there are only two camps, and everyone is a member of one or other and (b) that they have reached agreement — and therefore we are done. Perhaps you don’t mean it, but it’s a technique some people use to try to give the appearance of an agreement, and given the sensitive nature of the subject, I’d prefer you not do that.
>> 
>> If you say “there was support for the position from several camps”, or somesuch, that would be fine. That leaves room for people to say that they dissent, that’s all.
>> 
>> Got it?
> 
> Is this the colloquial use of the word "you" to mean "one"? As in "when one says 'both camps support’"?

Yes, “you” as in the sense of “one”.  Correct, Jean-Marc used the phrase first; but you responded to my message about its use, not him.


David Singer
Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.