Re: [rtcweb] confirming sense of the room: mti codec

Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Sat, 06 December 2014 09:39 UTC

Return-Path: <harald@alvestrand.no>
X-Original-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963DE1A894A for <rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 6 Dec 2014 01:39:20 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.91
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oxuMBjex0bsP for <rtcweb@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 6 Dec 2014 01:39:17 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mork.alvestrand.no (mork.alvestrand.no [IPv6:2001:700:1:2::117]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A2E1A88EF for <rtcweb@ietf.org>; Sat, 6 Dec 2014 01:39:16 -0800 (PST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mork.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49CF07C0B20 for <rtcweb@ietf.org>; Sat, 6 Dec 2014 10:39:15 +0100 (CET)
X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at alvestrand.no
Received: from mork.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mork.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h06M6gGmee0n for <rtcweb@ietf.org>; Sat, 6 Dec 2014 10:39:14 +0100 (CET)
Received: from [192.168.1.186] (unknown [188.113.88.47]) by mork.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D3B5C7C0DDC for <rtcweb@ietf.org>; Sat, 6 Dec 2014 10:38:59 +0100 (CET)
Message-ID: <5482CEB3.8030000@alvestrand.no>
Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 10:38:59 +0100
From: Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: rtcweb@ietf.org
References: <E3FA0C72-48C5-465E-AE15-EB19D8D563A7@ieca.com> <54820E74.90201@mozilla.com> <FCDCD184-549C-4111-ACDB-7C466A2EE9D1@apple.com> <548260D2.2020703@nostrum.com> <BBF5DDFE515C3946BC18D733B20DAD2339987D08@XMB122CNC.rim.net>
In-Reply-To: <BBF5DDFE515C3946BC18D733B20DAD2339987D08@XMB122CNC.rim.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtcweb/Kenxb4BhtfGTiM4tjlg5TUSK3go
Subject: Re: [rtcweb] confirming sense of the room: mti codec
X-BeenThere: rtcweb@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: Real-Time Communication in WEB-browsers working group list <rtcweb.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/rtcweb>, <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/>
List-Post: <mailto:rtcweb@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb>, <mailto:rtcweb-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 09:39:20 -0000

On 12/06/2014 03:23 AM, Andrew Allen wrote:
> Adam,
>
> However if you look at it another way:
>
> A majority of the market share of the desktop browser market (Microsoft and Apple) are against this and a significant share of the mobile browser market (Apple, Microsoft and BlackBerry) are against this.

Please .... if you bring market share into the discussion, tell us which
numbers you are using.

Clearly you are not using StatCounter:

http://gs.statcounter.com/#desktop-browser-ww-monthly-200807-201411

http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_browser-ww-monthly-201311-201411