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Re: [rtcweb] confirming sense of the room: mti codec

Bernard Aboba <bernard.aboba@gmail.com> Sat, 06 December 2014 03:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] confirming sense of the room: mti codec
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On Dec 5, 2014, at 17:50 , Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote
>>>> On Dec 5, 2014, at 11:58 , Jean-Marc Valin <jmvalin@mozilla.com> wrote:
>>>> 3) This is the only proposal that gets support from both camps
>> 
>> If I read Jean-Marc's statement correctly, it's not speaking on behalf of other people; it's using what they have already said, on the record [1], as a valid part of his rationale.

[BA] While this does appear to be a statement from an implementer about support in their own product, it does not correctly characterize the nature of the "consensus" as a whole. The "consensus" here did not involve acceptance by RTCWEB implementers of the necessity for them to support both H.264 and VP8.  Had such a proposal been made it most probably would have failed. Instead the "consensus" call involved imposing an obligation on a subset of implementers without their agreement.  There is a term for *that*, but it isn't "consensus" - the 13 colonies called it "taxation without representation".

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