Re: [rtcweb] confirming sense of the room: mti codec

Monty Montgomery <xiphmont@gmail.com> Sat, 06 December 2014 05:27 UTC

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>There is a term for *that*, but it isn't "consensus" - the 13 colonies called it "taxation without representation".

There's a difference between 'not represented' and 'holding a minority opinion'.

Monty