Re: [rtcweb] Counting NOs (Re: Straw Poll on Nokia mincing)

Stephan Wenger <stewe@stewe.org> Sat, 21 December 2013 18:01 UTC

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From: Stephan Wenger <stewe@stewe.org>
To: Monty Montgomery <xiphmont@gmail.com>
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Please point me to that consensus call.
Thanks,
Stephan


On 12/21/13, 9:58 AM, "Monty Montgomery" <xiphmont@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>Opus had several of these.
>>
>> Nonsense.  Really, people, try to do a minimum of homework before
>> commenting.
>
>Opus had a number of IPR declarations against it determined by
>consensus to be completely spurious.  I read nothing incorrect in
>Jack's comment.
>
>Too much of this discussion has become willfully obtuse.
>
>Monty