Re: [rtcweb] Matthew's response to straw poll

Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Fri, 20 December 2013 07:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Matthew's response to straw poll
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On 2013-12-20 07:17, cowwoc wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> You bring up a good point: at least 50% of this decision is legal in
> nature, yet no one bothered consulting a lawyer. Personally I think that
> people care more about the politics than legality, but still...
> 
> Is there any precedence in IETF or W3C for consulting with lawyers in
> order to make a more informed decision?
> 
> Gili
> 
> On 19/12/2013 10:34 PM, Matthew Kaufman (SKYPE) wrote:
>> I am answering this straw poll under protest based on my earlier
>> objections to the poll.
>>
>> In addition, I believe the poll is flawed due to the lack of direct
>> participation by the legal departments that are actually driving this
>> decision.

Matthew and Gili,

Matthew, there are no restrictions preventing anyone's legal department
to provide input directly into this straw poll, it is open to anyone.
Will you encourage Skype's legal department to provide an input to the poll?

I would also hope that the WG participants have consulted with their
respective legal counsel in regards to the licensing and other questions
of legal nature they may have when determining how to answer this straw
poll.

Gili, can you be more precise in your question regarding IETF consulting
lawyers? I know IETF has legal counsel, but that is used to avoid that
IETF as an organization does not create illegal working process etc. The
legal counsel is to my knowledge not available for IETF participants to
answer their questions in regards to standardization questions of
technical nature. One reason for this is clearly economical. I can also
see that there would be many other reasons, for example the client role,
the question of what jurisdictions that are of interest. Thus each
participant would need its own legal counsel if needed.


Cheers

Magnus Westerlund
(As one of the WG chairs)


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