Re: [rtcweb] Unacceptable - (Re: Straw Poll on Video Codec Alternatives)

cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org> Mon, 09 December 2013 20:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Unacceptable - (Re: Straw Poll on Video Codec Alternatives)
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On 09/12/2013 3:28 PM, Basil Mohamed Gohar wrote:
> On 12/09/2013 02:05 PM, cowwoc wrote:
>> What about this?
>>
>> Yes: I am in favor of this option, and would implement it.
>> Acceptable: I am neutral on this option, but would implement it if it is
>> chosen as MTI.
>> No: I am against this option, and would not implement it even if it is
>> chosen as MTI.
>>
>> Gili
> This is still unbalanced, I believe, for many of the same reasons.  What
> about, "I am against this, but I will implement it even if it is MTI".
> This conveys an entirely different idea about feelings on an issue.  The
> person would have chosen differently if given an option, whereas neutral
> means they actually don't care about this vs. another option, meaning
> they're the same for the purpose.
>

I'm fine with changing the middle option to "I am against this, but will 
implement it even if it is MTI". To me, it conveys the same feeling that 
I meant with the previous text.

Gili