Re: [81attendees] The perennial air connection/ hub airport discussion

[John Bradley <[e-mail]>]

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On 2011-08-04, at 3:03 PM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote:

> I'd love to see one in South America. For the hub pickers, GRU, EZE, SCL
> and LIM have more than adequeate connections to North America and
> Europe, and SCL is quite convenient for Australians as well as SCL and
> EZE are reachable in a single leg from Sydney and Auckland.
> 
> All four cities have adequate venues and, with the possible exception of
> GRU, all should be relatively cheap.
> 
> regards
> 
> Carlos
> 
> On 8/4/11 3:56 PM, Andrew McGregor wrote:
>> It's past time the South Pacific got another… Adelaide was a long time ago, and Auckland seems to have missed its chance.
>> 
>> On 4/08/2011, at 11:51 AM, Narelle wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, I for one would be happy to assist in organising any IETF held
>>> in Sydney. I am sure there is a mathematical function (participants,
>>> geography, frequency) we can come up with that we can multiply by
>>> dollars, take the determinant and share this equitably around.
>>> 
>>> Sydney has trains from all over Australia, and a major international
>>> airport, excellent restaurants and many sideline activities... I
>>> frequently get ferries into the city which is delightful.
>>> 
>>> Oh, and it would save me spending 24hrs+ in transit getting to
>>> meetings... and probably encourage another generation of participants
>>> from around the region.
>>> 
>>> Our dollar is very strong right now, which would muck US and other
>>> participants around (less so for EU and Cd). Yes, our customs,
>>> immigration and visa rules are tough, though visa waivers exist for
>>> US, Cd, EU, NZ, UK, Jp and more, and ietf procedures are streamlined.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Narelle
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Joe Touch <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 8/4/2011 7:37 AM, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>> And overriding these is always the "I haven't been to this location
>>>>> before and it seems like a nice part of the world" factor! When can we
>>>>> have another meeting in Australia?
>>>> Keith,
>>>> 
>>>> That's the logic that led us to QC over Vancouver (the latter actually
>>>> having real international connections).
>>>> 
>>>> Put simply, please leave us out of your vacation plans.
>>>> 
>>>> This ought to be about picking a location that enables attendees most
>>>> conveniently and economically to participate in an IETF meeting.
>>>> 
>>>> Consider OFC. There are two meetings a year, and they *never* move.
>>>> 
>>>> Somehow we've replaced 'distributing the pain' with 'increasing everyone's
>>>> pain so a few can use the IETF as a vacation spot'. And - as noted in other
>>>> posts - we seem to avoid obvious locations with very economical costs, even
>>>> if we want to 'mix it up'.
>>>> 
>>>> Joe
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