Re: [81attendees] are we getting complacent? Good job!

Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com> Wed, 03 August 2011 22:14 UTC

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Actually, there has been alot of development in downtown Dallas in recent
years since the last IETF.  The Anatole, of course, was a poor choice in
general.  Dallas does have public transport - Dart light rail actually comes
all the way out to where I live now and I'm 25 miles away from downtown.
 However, I would absolutely recommend that IETF *never* consider having a
meeting in Dallas in the summer.  It would actually be unhealthy for folks
that aren't accustomed to the heat.

I certainly agree that as far as restaurant choices, QC was superior to any
other venue that I've been too in the past 13 years.  The vegetarian
restuarant was certainly top notch and it was allergy friendly to boot.

Mary.


On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:

> On Aug 3, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Fred Baker wrote:
>
> Hiroshima had a similar record, both in the "but darn it there was a final
> leg to the trip" and "everything else was wonderful".
>
>
> I don't mean to criticize excessively, but the complaints about how hard
> Hiroshima was to get to pretty much blew my mind.   It was not only easy,
> but pleasant.   The people who had trouble were the ones who refused to use
> ground transportation, even though ground transportation in Japan is much
> better than air transport.   Traveling to IETF requires a bit of advance
> planning.   If you do the homework, which mostly involves asking people who
> know the area what to do, you get there, and it's not a problem.   If you
> don't, you have a difficult time.
>
> This is a small problem, and few people complain about it.   I would
> complain pretty loudly if I had to go to Dallas for every IETF—there's no
> food, and you have to rent a car, because there is no public transport, and
> the hotels are all out in the middle of nowhere.   You'd be trading an extra
> hour or three of travel on either end for daily hassles.   In QC, there was
> a vegetarian cafeteria two blocks from the hotel, and tons of good
> restaurants, so you could just stay in the hotel and be done with it.
>
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