Re: [81attendees] are we getting complacent? Good job!

[Adam Roach <[e-mail]>]

Perhaps you meant something different than that by "diversity," but it 
doesn't change the fact that you're bringing the red herring of 
geography into a conversation about reachability.

/a

On 8/8/11 1:32 PM, Dae Young KIM wrote:
> Who said 'ethno'?
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:20 AM, Adam Roach <[e-mail] 
> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
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>     On 8/8/11 12:53 PM, Dae Young KIM wrote:
>>     On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Jakob Heitz
>>     <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>
>>         The IAOC doing a great job. Don't change a thing, guys.
>>
>>         The IETF is a global organization. It is important to
>>         have meetings in diverse parts of the world to make sure
>>         that anyone from anywhere can attend at least some of the time.
>>
>>
>>     +1.
>>
>>     This thread reminds me of the struggles that a lot of
>>     non-North-American(NA) participants, especially those from the
>>     unprevileged corner of Far East Asia, had to go through for so
>>     many meetings until now, and that with considerably lower budgets
>>     than elsewhere.
>>
>>     Without considerations for diversity, and with continuing
>>     NA-centric criteria, and especially in this era of emerging new
>>     market regions, I doubt whether IETF can continue to claim it's a
>>     global international community, not any more NA-centric one.
>>
>
>     Throwing "North America" into this mix does make for a convenient
>     strawman that is very easy to rip apart. However, if you read the
>     thread carefully, you would find scant evidence that anyone
>     agitating for "major hubs" actually means "major North American
>     hubs." (In fact, you would notice that the venue actually under
>     discussion is... umm... in North America).
>
>     Try not to paint potentially legitimate feedback about the ease of
>     travel to non-hub cities as ethnocentric attacks on the selection
>     of continents. They aren't even marginally related, and it's
>     insulting to insinuate otherwise.
>
>     /a
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> DY