Re: [81attendees] are we getting complacent? Good job!

[Curtis Villamizar <[e-mail]>]

I interpreted it as geographic diversity.

From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Adam Roach
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 1:14 PM
To: Dae Young KIM
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Subject: Re: [81attendees] are we getting complacent? Good job!

Perhaps you meant something different than that by "diversity," but it doesn't change the fact that you're bringing the red herring of geography into a conversation about reachability.

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On 8/8/11 1:32 PM, Dae Young KIM wrote:
Who said 'ethno'?
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:20 AM, Adam Roach <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
On 8/8/11 12:53 PM, Dae Young KIM wrote:
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:29 AM, Jakob Heitz <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
The IAOC doing a great job. Don't change a thing, guys.

The IETF is a global organization. It is important to
have meetings in diverse parts of the world to make sure
that anyone from anywhere can attend at least some of the time.

+1.

This thread reminds me of the struggles that a lot of non-North-American(NA) participants, especially those from the unprevileged corner of Far East Asia, had to go through for so many meetings until now, and that with considerably lower budgets than elsewhere.

Without considerations for diversity, and with continuing NA-centric criteria, and especially in this era of emerging new market regions, I doubt whether IETF can continue to claim it's a global international community, not any more NA-centric one.


Throwing "North America" into this mix does make for a convenient strawman that is very easy to rip apart. However, if you read the thread carefully, you would find scant evidence that anyone agitating for "major hubs" actually means "major North American hubs." (In fact, you would notice that the venue actually under discussion is... umm... in North America).

Try not to paint potentially legitimate feedback about the ease of travel to non-hub cities as ethnocentric attacks on the selection of continents. They aren't even marginally related, and it's insulting to insinuate otherwise.

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