Re: [81attendees] The perennial air connection/ hub airport discussion

[Ole Jacobsen <[e-mail]>]

So there is obviously no point in doing surveys since Joe Touch knows 
exactly why people might prefer one location over another. Sheesh.

For the record, I do not believe we asked any questions about 
"tourism" in the survey, but you know best, Joe!


Ole


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On Thu, 4 Aug 2011, Joe Touch wrote:

> 
> 
> On 8/4/2011 8:05 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
> >
> > You said:
> >
> > "Put simply, please leave us out of your vacation plans."
> >
> > Please define "your" in the above statement. The selection was made
> > (partially) based on an IETF community survey.
> 
> Any response that indicates a preference based on vacation plans is from
> someone in the "YOUR" bin.
> 
> "US" are the rest of us who come to get work done, who appreciate a reasonable
> threshold of services, but who don't vote based on side-trips, canoeing,
> biking, soccer, etc.
> 
> > Your statement reminds me a bit of the arguments heard prior to IETF
> > in China. "We don't believe in their Internet policies, we shouldn't
> > go there!" Nice slap in the face to the several hundred IETF
> > participants from China.
> 
> Hmmm. And "we don't like US immigration policies, we shouldn't go there" (or
> should go to Canada in preference) hasn't been a multi-year slap on several
> hundred IETF participants from the US?
> 
> There are many factors that determine whether people attend. IMO, it's
> reasonable to consider issues that affect those who earnestly want to come to
> do work - including visa issues, legal constraints on attendees (as with the
> first attempt at China). But there's little we can or should do about issues
> of personal preference (not liking China's Internet policies, not liking many
> countries fingerprinting, etc.).
> 
> Issues of pure personal preference - e.g., vacations, local entertainment,
> etc. - have no business (literally) in affecting the site selection of a
> business meeting.
> 
> Joe
>