Re: [81attendees] are we getting complacent? Good job!

[Ted Lemon <[e-mail]>]

On Aug 3, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Fred Baker wrote:
> Hiroshima had a similar record, both in the "but darn it there was a final leg to the trip" and "everything else was wonderful".

I don't mean to criticize excessively, but the complaints about how hard Hiroshima was to get to pretty much blew my mind.   It was not only easy, but pleasant.   The people who had trouble were the ones who refused to use ground transportation, even though ground transportation in Japan is much better than air transport.   Traveling to IETF requires a bit of advance planning.   If you do the homework, which mostly involves asking people who know the area what to do, you get there, and it's not a problem.   If you don't, you have a difficult time.

This is a small problem, and few people complain about it.   I would complain pretty loudly if I had to go to Dallas for every IETF—there's no food, and you have to rent a car, because there is no public transport, and the hotels are all out in the middle of nowhere.   You'd be trading an extra hour or three of travel on either end for daily hassles.   In QC, there was a vegetarian cafeteria two blocks from the hotel, and tons of good restaurants, so you could just stay in the hotel and be done with it.