Re: [81attendees] are we getting complacent? Good job!

[Ole Jacobsen <[e-mail]>]

Joe,

I don't think that saying this location "was preferred for its 
vacation qualities" is a fair characterization. The venue itself was 
certainly not selected for that reason. The survey basically said
"we'd rather go to a new location than back to Vancouver."

You could have flown from Chicago to QC, lots of folks did that. It is 
not particularly unusual for us to pick a venue in North America that
will require a connecting flight for many people, gee Minneapolis 
comes to mind.

The "international hub" argument would really severely limit our 
options for venues anywhere in the world. For starters many of these
hubs are EXPENSIVE for all the expenses that we have to consider 
(venue rental, hotel etc). 

Hiroshima probably didn't seem that cheap, largely due to the poor 
performance of the dollar, but it was CONSIDERABLY cheaper than Tokyo 
or Yokohama would have been. That isn't why it was selected by the 
way, and, yes, it did indeed result in some additional "travel pain" 
(although I must say a number of people chose the worst option in 
spite of numerous recommendations).

Ole


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On Mon, 1 Aug 2011, Joe Touch wrote:

> An international hub would reach more than two other counties (the 
> neighboring one and France).  Yes, there are connections to 
> international hubs, but this isn't an international hub by any 
> stretch. Traveling via train would have required an overnight in 
> Montreal - which I've never needed before for travel to Europe or 
> Japan.
> 
> AFAICT this venue was preferred for its vacation qualities, not for 
> business reasons (see the early post on why this was selected over 
> Vancouver).
> 
> I hope future selections will focus on ease/speed of travel to the 
> venue as well as the meeting space and hotels. For me it was easier, 
> cheaper, and nearly as much time to get to Maastricht as would have 
> been QC. If that persists, I'll be glad to remind everyone that our 
> primary forum is the email lists, and take planes for true vacations 
> instead.
> 
> Joe
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