Re: [81attendees] The perennial air connection/ hub airport discussion
Narelle <narellec@gmail.com> Thu, 04 August 2011 18:51 UTC
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Subject: Re: [81attendees] The perennial air connection/ hub airport discussion
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Well, I for one would be happy to assist in organising any IETF held in Sydney. I am sure there is a mathematical function (participants, geography, frequency) we can come up with that we can multiply by dollars, take the determinant and share this equitably around. Sydney has trains from all over Australia, and a major international airport, excellent restaurants and many sideline activities... I frequently get ferries into the city which is delightful. Oh, and it would save me spending 24hrs+ in transit getting to meetings... and probably encourage another generation of participants from around the region. Our dollar is very strong right now, which would muck US and other participants around (less so for EU and Cd). Yes, our customs, immigration and visa rules are tough, though visa waivers exist for US, Cd, EU, NZ, UK, Jp and more, and ietf procedures are streamlined. Best regards Narelle On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> wrote: > > > On 8/4/2011 7:37 AM, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) wrote: > ... >> >> And overriding these is always the "I haven't been to this location >> before and it seems like a nice part of the world" factor! When can we >> have another meeting in Australia? > > Keith, > > That's the logic that led us to QC over Vancouver (the latter actually > having real international connections). > > Put simply, please leave us out of your vacation plans. > > This ought to be about picking a location that enables attendees most > conveniently and economically to participate in an IETF meeting. > > Consider OFC. There are two meetings a year, and they *never* move. > > Somehow we've replaced 'distributing the pain' with 'increasing everyone's > pain so a few can use the IETF as a vacation spot'. And - as noted in other > posts - we seem to avoid obvious locations with very economical costs, even > if we want to 'mix it up'. > > Joe > _______________________________________________ > 81attendees mailing list > 81attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/81attendees > -- Narelle narellec@gmail.com
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