Re: [81attendees] The perennial air connection/ hub airport discussion

[Joe Touch <[e-mail]>]

On 8/4/2011 8:05 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
>
> You said:
>
> "Put simply, please leave us out of your vacation plans."
>
> Please define "your" in the above statement. The selection was made
> (partially) based on an IETF community survey.

Any response that indicates a preference based on vacation plans is from 
someone in the "YOUR" bin.

"US" are the rest of us who come to get work done, who appreciate a 
reasonable threshold of services, but who don't vote based on 
side-trips, canoeing, biking, soccer, etc.

> Your statement reminds me a bit of the arguments heard prior to IETF
> in China. "We don't believe in their Internet policies, we shouldn't
> go there!" Nice slap in the face to the several hundred IETF
> participants from China.

Hmmm. And "we don't like US immigration policies, we shouldn't go there" 
(or should go to Canada in preference) hasn't been a multi-year slap on 
several hundred IETF participants from the US?

There are many factors that determine whether people attend. IMO, it's 
reasonable to consider issues that affect those who earnestly want to 
come to do work - including visa issues, legal constraints on attendees 
(as with the first attempt at China). But there's little we can or 
should do about issues of personal preference (not liking China's 
Internet policies, not liking many countries fingerprinting, etc.).

Issues of pure personal preference - e.g., vacations, local 
entertainment, etc. - have no business (literally) in affecting the site 
selection of a business meeting.

Joe