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Re: [81attendees] diverse meeting locations

Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> Tue, 09 August 2011 00:54 UTC

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On 8/8/2011 4:43 PM, John C Klensin wrote:
> But, if we provide them with several
> unattractive locations in a row, maybe they (or their
> organizations) reconsider participation in the IETF.

For my part, the pain/time of logistics has impacted my participating in 
person to *2 of the last 3* meetings.

I figure that's high, given I otherwise haven't missed a meeting since 
1996 when I first started attending.

> The odds
> of figuring out that situation is occurring from either
> attendance figures or quickly-assembled surveys is very low; by
> the time the effects are actually felt, it is too late.

Why not just ask?

I will attend only when the benefit to me isn't outweighed by the 
logistics, and the recent track record on that has been poor.

Joe

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