Re: [81attendees] are we getting complacent? Good job!

Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@qualcomm.com> Mon, 08 August 2011 15:28 UTC

Return-Path: <rg+ietf@qualcomm.com>
X-Original-To: 81attendees@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: 81attendees@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16D721F8A35 for <81attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 08:28:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-Quarantine-ID: <e1QGnohlG61z>
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "MIME-Version"
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -105.487
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.487 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.278, BAYES_00=-2.599, PLING_QUERY=1.39, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e1QGnohlG61z for <81attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 08:28:56 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from wolverine01.qualcomm.com (wolverine01.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.254]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63AF21F8574 for <81attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 08:28:56 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=rg+ietf@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1312817363; x=1344353363; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:date:to:from: subject:cc:content-type:x-random-sig-tag; z=Message-Id:=20<p06240601ca65afd19752@loud.pensive.org> |In-Reply-To:=0D=0A=20<alpine.OSX.2.01.1108072112110.1425 6@sjc-vpn7-506.cisco.com>|References:=20<4E34C3A9.2020502 @att.com>=0D=0A=20<A5B9F059BE69461F8008EBECD84A1E67@china .huawei.com>=0D=0A=20<80A0822C5E9A4440A5117C2F4CD36A64027 13C27@DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net>=0D=0A=20<3DA9637F-1C72-43 CB-B040-49F2A6FF26D9@softarmor.com>=0D=0A=20<alpine.OSX.2 .01.1108011727420.20499@173-11-110-132-sfba.hfc.comcastbu =0D=0A=20siness.net>=20<4E398F03.1000806@dcrocker.net>=0D =0A=20<CA6BA2FE-13E7-438F-B943-7659A37DB3C5@cisco.com>=0D =0A=20<744D8CA9-9C01-41A5-A22C-CDF2F4E904EF@fugue.com>=0D =0A=20<p06240611ca64d0f07a2b@loud.pensive.org>=0D=0A=20<a lpine.OSX.2.01.1108072112110.14256@sjc-vpn7-506.cisco.com >|X-Mailer:=20Eudora=20for=20Mac=20OS=20X|Date:=20Mon,=20 8=20Aug=202011=2008:24:15=20-0700|To:=20Ole=20Jacobsen=20 <ole@cisco.com>|From:=20Randall=20Gellens=20<rg+ietf@qual comm.com>|Subject:=20Re:=20[81attendees]=20are=20we=20get ting=20complacent?=20Good=20job!|Cc:=20Ted=20Lemon=20<mel lon@fugue.com>,=20<81attendees@ietf.org>|Content-Type:=20 text/plain=3B=20charset=3D"us-ascii"=20=3B=20format=3D"fl owed"|X-Random-Sig-Tag:=201.0b28; bh=0krwF48hjatb2shAJ4X9M+o9oXvxLEuf6Pyy1cq3q+M=; b=WzGVZRXf3tACadiiuesYbKoaZoAMRo7Unfs8DbfOEi1N3Fp+HoiItWJL sbqLXxt049srx8L9qPa/QQzsQmYcaEIDtP0jGsqFBvV+W3Ll4JFtBK+8x v57bdy1QEYeNaQQXarF6X9dGtFE4KhOuKF34yJMzQ+rpZx0r7UyieTUaD g=;
X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5400,1158,6431"; a="108811912"
Received: from ironmsg03-l.qualcomm.com ([172.30.48.18]) by wolverine01.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 08 Aug 2011 08:29:23 -0700
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,337,1309762800"; d="scan'208";a="59809239"
Received: from warlock.qualcomm.com ([129.46.50.49]) by Ironmsg03-L.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 08 Aug 2011 08:29:23 -0700
Received: from loud.pensive.org (myvpn-r-710.ras.qualcomm.com [10.64.2.198]) by warlock.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id p78FTINq013248; Mon, 8 Aug 2011 08:29:22 -0700
Mime-Version: 1.0
Message-Id: <p06240601ca65afd19752@loud.pensive.org>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.OSX.2.01.1108072112110.14256@sjc-vpn7-506.cisco.com>
References: <4E34C3A9.2020502@att.com> <A5B9F059BE69461F8008EBECD84A1E67@china.huawei.com> <80A0822C5E9A4440A5117C2F4CD36A6402713C27@DEMUEXC006.nsn-intra.net> <3DA9637F-1C72-43CB-B040-49F2A6FF26D9@softarmor.com> <alpine.OSX.2.01.1108011727420.20499@173-11-110-132-sfba.hfc.comcastbu siness.net> <4E398F03.1000806@dcrocker.net> <CA6BA2FE-13E7-438F-B943-7659A37DB3C5@cisco.com> <744D8CA9-9C01-41A5-A22C-CDF2F4E904EF@fugue.com> <p06240611ca64d0f07a2b@loud.pensive.org> <alpine.OSX.2.01.1108072112110.14256@sjc-vpn7-506.cisco.com>
X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 08:24:15 -0700
To: Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com>
From: Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@qualcomm.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28
Cc: 81attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [81attendees] are we getting complacent? Good job!
X-BeenThere: 81attendees@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF 81 Attendee List <81attendees.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/81attendees>, <mailto:81attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/81attendees>
List-Post: <mailto:81attendees@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:81attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/81attendees>, <mailto:81attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 15:28:57 -0000

At 9:24 PM -0700 8/7/11, Ole Jacobsen wrote:

>  way too many folks ignored the advise found at http://hiroshima-info.info (my
>  webpage) or http://www.ietf76.jp/ (host webpage) which was:
>
>  * Fly to Osaka (KIX). Take the airport train to Shin Osaka and the
>    Shinkasen from there to Hiroshima.
>
>  Lots of complaints resulted from long layovers at Narita for the one
>  daily flight from there, transfers to Haneda for domestic flights, or
>  even required overnight hotel stays, when all of that could have been
>  (mostly) avoided.

Flying to Osaka required switching carriers and giving up an upgrade.

-- 
Randall Gellens
Opinions are personal;    facts are suspect;    I speak for myself only
-------------- Randomly selected tag: ---------------
Seriousness is the only refuge for the shallow.  --Oscar Wilde