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Re: [81attendees] The perennial air connection/ hub airport discussion

Andrew McGregor <andrewmcgr@gmail.com> Thu, 04 August 2011 18:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [81attendees] The perennial air connection/ hub airport discussion
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It's past time the South Pacific got another… Adelaide was a long time ago, and Auckland seems to have missed its chance.

On 4/08/2011, at 11:51 AM, Narelle wrote:

> Well, I for one would be happy to assist in organising any IETF held
> in Sydney. I am sure there is a mathematical function (participants,
> geography, frequency) we can come up with that we can multiply by
> dollars, take the determinant and share this equitably around.
> 
> Sydney has trains from all over Australia, and a major international
> airport, excellent restaurants and many sideline activities... I
> frequently get ferries into the city which is delightful.
> 
> Oh, and it would save me spending 24hrs+ in transit getting to
> meetings... and probably encourage another generation of participants
> from around the region.
> 
> Our dollar is very strong right now, which would muck US and other
> participants around (less so for EU and Cd). Yes, our customs,
> immigration and visa rules are tough, though visa waivers exist for
> US, Cd, EU, NZ, UK, Jp and more, and ietf procedures are streamlined.
> 
> 
> Best regards
> 
> 
> Narelle
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/4/2011 7:37 AM, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) wrote:
>> ...
>>> 
>>> And overriding these is always the "I haven't been to this location
>>> before and it seems like a nice part of the world" factor! When can we
>>> have another meeting in Australia?
>> 
>> Keith,
>> 
>> That's the logic that led us to QC over Vancouver (the latter actually
>> having real international connections).
>> 
>> Put simply, please leave us out of your vacation plans.
>> 
>> This ought to be about picking a location that enables attendees most
>> conveniently and economically to participate in an IETF meeting.
>> 
>> Consider OFC. There are two meetings a year, and they *never* move.
>> 
>> Somehow we've replaced 'distributing the pain' with 'increasing everyone's
>> pain so a few can use the IETF as a vacation spot'. And - as noted in other
>> posts - we seem to avoid obvious locations with very economical costs, even
>> if we want to 'mix it up'.
>> 
>> Joe
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