Re: [81attendees] diverse meeting locations (was: are we getting complacent? Good job!)

"DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com> Tue, 09 August 2011 10:51 UTC

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From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com>
To: Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com>, Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@qualcomm.com>
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 12:51:13 +0200
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Subject: Re: [81attendees] diverse meeting locations (was: are we getting complacent? Good job!)
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Unfortunately, the success of the IETF is not measured by the number of RFCs published, and therefore this entire charging model doesn't work.

Regards

Keith

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 81attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:81attendees-bounces@ietf.org]
> On Behalf Of Yoav Nir
> Sent: 09 August 2011 06:40
> To: Randall Gellens
> Cc: 81attendees@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [81attendees] diverse meeting locations (was: are we getting
> complacent? Good job!)
> 
> 
> On Aug 9, 2011, at 3:56 AM, Randall Gellens wrote:
> 
> >
> > 	- Meetings in Hawaii and other desirable locales
> > 	- A lower "basic entry" registration fee which gets one in to the
> > reception, social, and plenary
> > 	- A higher "hard core" registration fee allowing unlimited entry
> > to all WGs and BOFs
> > 	- A "premier facilitator" discount for companies registering 10,
> > 20, 30 attendees
> > 	- A "valiant contributor" discount on an individual registration
> > fees based on number of RFCs published as author, editor,
> > contributor, or acknowledgement
> 
> I think a $50 discount per RFC is reasonable. Although we'd end up paying
> people like Hannes and Bernard Aboba $2000 to attend.
> 
> > 	- Press releases for each meeting with names of companies paying
> > for people to attend, (in order of how much they paid total)
> > congratulating them for helping progress the future of the Internet
> 
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