Re: [81attendees] are we getting complacent? Good job!

Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> Mon, 01 August 2011 16:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [81attendees] are we getting complacent? Good job!
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On 8/1/2011 8:41 AM, John R. Levine wrote:
>>> Quebec is within driving distance of about 1/4 of the population in
>>> North
>>> America. Vancouver isn't.

NA = 530M

Canada - Quebec province = 26M
Eastern US states within dist = (all in millions)
	CT = 3.5
	ME = 1.3
	MA = 6.4
	NH = 1.3
	NY = 19
	RI = 1
	VT = 0.6

	Some major cities out of dist:
		NYC (8hrs) = 8
		Boston (6 hrs) = 4

	i.e., 21.1M possibly within dist

That's a total of 47.1M out of 530M

Not even 10%, and that includes a LOT of places nobody would ever drive 
from.

Agreed that Vancouver is even less useful for driving (under 7M), but 
how many attendees drove (not just from nearby airports)?

Joe