Re: [81attendees] are we getting complacent? Good job!

[Thomas Heide Clausen <[e-mail]>]

Seconding that this meeting in Quebec was excellent! IETFs are intense, rarely with time to venture outside - but here one didn't need much to see neat stuff - walking the 5 min to a variety of restaurants saved suffering usual hotel-fare more than necessary.

Also, the location left us with plenty of nearby watering holes for holding bar BOF's in actual bars.

As for flying in - like Fred, I end up with at least one connection almost wherever I go (and I live in a major European hub-city), often two - and I *really* just fail to see the big deal with that. This time, my connection was in Canada, so I even had a smiling immigration officer and polite security-personnel…..

A big vote for coming back to Quebec - and soon. 

And, a big thanks to the secretariat, volunteers, Ray and all the rest of the gang who came through to ensure that this IETF was as close to perfection, in terms of meeting conditions, as I can recall from the last 10-15ish years. Other than getting myself lost in the hallways at the convention center (but there were the always lovely center-staff to help re-route me), I had not a single glitch with *anything* 

Thomas

ps:  Having an IETF in Santa Barbara would actually be a splendid idea: even though I likely would have two or three connections, I can quite easily imagine quite enjoying a beach-BOF or two….

On Aug 1, 2011, at 23:57 , Fred Baker wrote:

> 
> On Jul 31, 2011, at 10:52 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
> 
>>> A city with a real set of international connections is better (eg
>>> Vancouver)
>> 
>> Since Quebec City has direct flights to Montreal, Toronto, Newark and Chicago, all of which are major intercontinental hubs, I'd say it has plenty of international connections.
> 
> Speaking strictly for myself... 
> 
> Every trip I take, I wind up on a commuter flight SBA->{SFO,LAX,DEN}, a hub->hub flight, and a final leg. That final leg is sometimes a train, as it was for Hiroshima, sometimes a full-service flight as it was to Prague, and sometimes a commuter flight. Where it gets crazy is if there are not adequate flights to support meeting attendance (if we wanted to have the IETF in Santa Barbara, I'd be happy, but the rest of you would be whining up a storm), if routes or layovers are just plain silly (I once flew Kampala->Cairo via Lilongwe and Johannesburg, and don't get me started on San Francisco->Bangalore), or such.
> 
> I don't think we have an appropriate emoticon for "I am so very OVER people whining about not being able to get end to end on a single airplane"...
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