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Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Sat, 01 October 2022 02:54 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2022 19:54:18 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: BCP 83 PR-Action Against Dan Harkins
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I don’t agree with the timeliness argument here. It sounds the racist
Internet drafts should have done it, but the calls for oppression (that’s
what it is, even if you think it is called for) contain no reasoning.
What’s the reasoning?

thanks,
Rob

On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 19:30 Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, at 13:46, Mark Nottingham wrote:
> > I support this action, and (like others) would like to know why it took
> so long.
>
> I also support this action, but would reframe the ask for the IESG: What
> could be done differently that might allow actions to be more timely?
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